Living together can not be considered as a crime. It is a fundamental right. We all have the right to live. Our constitution allows that. Human were like that, they live together in order to survive. Khusboo knows this. Not all the actors are fools. Earlier Khusboo was goddess. She had a temple. Khusboo’s films were (most of them) dealt with conservative themes. In chinnathambi she eats from the plates of her husband’s. When she became outdated she do get roles in serials. Like many others she also became a social activist. Now a days it is the trick to regain the lost popularity (not sure just watch IPL show Shetty’s and Zinta’s are there!!).
The heading is derived from the recent supreme court remark regarding Pre-marital relations. The apex court observes that “a man and woman living together without marriage cannot be considered as an offence”. It also made it clear that “living together is not an offence”. Five years ago Khusboo made a statement that now a days no man can really believe that the lady whom he is going to marry will be a virgin. Fundamentalists said that it is an open fire against marriage and family. The recent supreme court remark was in connection with the Khusboo case.
The three judge bench observed that “even lord krishna and Radha lived together”. All are true, we are a modern society now. Pre-marital relation is not a crime. What about pre-marital sex, is it a crime. What about the raids taken place in hotels and lodges across the country in all these days. What about the punishments? All were in vein!. So in short what is the point. There is nothing called sin in a pre-marital relationship. Is our society this much matured. Still we are fighting for religion, land and money. We are more and more concerned about our caste and religion. Are we matured? I don’t think so. We are less inclusive society. Caste based reservation still exists here. Family is the atom of a society. If it is termed as “living together” what is the significance.
Some years before there was a case about one model claimed that she is not married but one man said that she was her wife. Finally she was ousted from the competition. Later she made it clear that she pretended to be married in order to get a house to live. All these happened. Now we are saying this is not a crime. There are more important things that need more attention in this society. We have to focus on these. Pre-matial and extra marital relations are the symptoms of an unhealthy society. A Khusboo can not cure that.
its not a crime as long as the age of woman is 18 and man is 21 is crossed. but there is also a judgement from supreme court that states a woman living with a man for some years (i think 3) can b considered as his wife and she can claim all rights even legal ones.
Comment by blackofficer — April 1, 2010 @ 5:49 pm
i support the final Moral…” Pre-matial and extra marital relations are the symptoms of an unhealthy society “
Comment by Sumit Asok — April 1, 2010 @ 6:05 pm
I hardly see HOW ON EARTH you can equate the IPL to social activism in the very starting paragraph!!
Dear author – I think the demise of your post started there.
The whole post is filled with contradictions! The author should have tried to put his thoughts and personal ideals in order before trying to pen this post. Of course an argument can be made that he was trying to create a medium for healthy(?) debate by being a turn coat; but I doubt if that would stand.
Now living together outside marriage is not a crime. Yes we can agree completely on that but going ahead and claiming it to be a “symptom of an unhealthy society is pushing the limit”.
Here the author throws in an Ace on the table – a card that was never in the deck in the first place.
Extra Marital relationships.
This is a totally different story, a different ball game, different emotions and absolutely no supporters who share a moral code (?) and respect for the sanctity of a “relationship” (not marriage).
The author disappoints with this underhand trick.
Yes we agree that Extra marital relation ships are a scourge and need to be removed from society (?) for the family unit to survive.
Take a stand man!
Can you write “Pre-matial relation is a symptom of an unhealthy society”?
If you say yes – I would say two things: Hell with what you think – the Law (as the post says) gives it the A-okay and you are a misguided soul.
But then you didn’t write it – so I say : “The point you are making is…. ?”
Pramod also refers to “What about the raids taken place in hotels and lodges across the country in all these days. What about the punishments?”
What punishment? exactly the point. Who exactly has been punished for having sex together and getting caught in the act. An unfortunate misunderstanding that stems out of watching too many movies.
There are two strains to this argument. One “Do the cops you”. The law of the land – the same one the author tried to based his comments on says that the cops can take you to a precinct or district station to ascertain if a crime has been committed. To charge you with one. Not judge you. That is for the courts.
Two. The act of them taking you to a station seems to hold a stigma. That is all you are talking about.
Forget about the punishments because if you have CONSENSUAL sex with someone (all under the ideal circumstances like being of age etc.) and the cops ask you about it they CANNOT and WILL NOT charge you because it is not prostitution.
That is a long and winding discussion, one the activists out there are battling out; but I doubt if India is going to be Amsterdam.
Prostitution is loosely defined as solicited sex. Both solicitation for sex and the act of solicited sex is illegal in India.
“Family is the atom of a society. If it is termed as “living together” what is the significance.”
“Family is the atom of a society.”
Agree with you completely on that mate. So what is your problem? You saying two people can’t live together have a monogamous relationship, and be a family is it?
Don’t try to bring the whole issue of having children and the gamut of paperwork into the picture ok? What if A married man and his wife don’t want children?
How exactly are they different from when they were living with each other.
Now, Religion is a persons personal choice and it has to be left like that remember we are a secular country.
(We seem to take that for granted because it in the founding preamble of our country – remember the furore a scarf creates in another “modern” secular country – Turkey)
Somehow we Indians have in a way naturally been able to prevent such excesses – let us live it at that and work towards not meddling with that.
Stay on point.
Living together isn’t a crime.
Caste and such class based system being prevalent though for an early good has outlived it’s efficacy and it is time that the BPL system comes into effect.
Religion is a personal choice. Leave it.
I think my words would leave this incomplete – so I leave the readers with this transcript from said Suit of ppl vs Kushboo. and the words on out venerable apex court judges:
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I rest.
I rest but I rest into disturbed slumber; slumber disturbed by the Immoralities of man.
I hardly see HOW ON EARTH you can equate the IPL to social activism in the very starting paragraph!!
Dear author – I think the demise of your post started there.
Bibl.:
http://www.newsofap.com/newsofap-9529-21-supreme-court-agrees-with-actress-kushboo-nothing-wrong-in-pre-marital-sex-newsofap.html
Comment by Hari Somanath — April 2, 2010 @ 11:22 pm
Thank you for the comments. First I would like to apologize for the spelling mistakes and grammar errors. I think this site provides me good platform and I should take more care while posting. Actually I forgot to read once before posting it. In twitter 4 criticized me saying “it is exceptionally badly written post”.
I disagree with the comment that I don’t have a stand. I have a stand and it is “Pre-martial and extra marital relations are the symptoms of an unhealthy society”. I wrote this article just because I saw none is writing anything about this judgment. Call me old fashioned but I believe that every society sustains upon some morals not upon blind laws. It is my opinion and it is my stand.
Comment by pramodthomas — April 3, 2010 @ 9:55 am
This is a very badly structured judgement post.
The previous poster Hari Somanath has pretty much addressed the list of logical fallacies and rhetoric abused here(and abused in all the wrong places in the post)
If the author had stated his personal moral viewpoint at the beginning as a disclaimer, I might have forgiven him.
But, FINALLY introducing extra-marital relationships into the same boat as pre-marital relationships (of which there are many kinds, mind you) leaves me feeling like I got conned into reading this post. I dislike that.
Let the name-calling and blog spam begin.
Comment by Vimal George — April 9, 2010 @ 6:38 pm
Is it a good culture ?, anyway i will not support this. its against our culture.
Comment by Anish K.S — April 10, 2010 @ 5:29 pm
To the Author
GET A LIFE.
Comment by snigdha — April 16, 2010 @ 1:54 pm
The reason why a guy works the whole day (9 am to 5pm,sometimes more) is because he has the thought that his wife and kids are at home sweet home.wife and kids are his responsibility…his duty.In the west there are dignity of labor.no person is allowed to work more than the specified amount of time.It is his right to work no more.
But in third world countries like India,where labor cost is so low that the laborers work like animals all day long.My point is there are some rules in Indian culture like virginity before marriage no extra-martial relationship…the list goes on.
Family is the nucleues of any society not individuals.And if the mental health of family has to be preserved,these rules are a must follow.liing with a girl/boy is breaking of these rules.a whole new permutation and combination comes into play.which ultimately results in insanity.
Indian culture,like all other refined cultures in the world(relatively new cultures need time to adapt..that is why in U.S.A you can get a girl to sleep with for a night.but not in india.situtaion is changing fast though)has sanity attached to it.Hope everyone tries to understand these.
The author needs to be appreciated for bringing in this topic ..well done man
Comment by kittusays — May 27, 2010 @ 6:53 pm
i think the author is a bit confused…first of all pre marital sex and ex-marital sex are very different in its nature.dey cannot b equated.ex marital sex is what really destroys family n the consequences are for many pple.atleast a small percentage of 2day’s teenagers are sexually active-pre marital sex.lets face it n not close our eyes to dis fact.
Comment by madhu — May 28, 2010 @ 7:01 pm
Thank you all for your comments, I am humbled
Comment by pramodthomas — June 10, 2010 @ 9:43 am
First night u drink milk, eat some fruits and then what? Why are so many scared of sex ? too much wanking is actually worse and admit it fellas, Its just the frustration of not getting laid soon enuff or having to wait so long for marriage without any sort of sex. And having sex is way better than being hypocrites or being jealous or even emotionally / mentally rotten to the core!!
Comment by JC — June 13, 2010 @ 1:00 pm
is hanging together in street is crime in india?i saw many time that a bot and a girl cought in india just because they were talking together in street…/???
Comment by mohit — September 6, 2010 @ 6:49 pm
is hanging together in street is crime in india?i saw many time that a boy and a girl cought in india just because they were talking together in street…/???
Comment by mohit — September 6, 2010 @ 6:49 pm
Living together is like a kind of going to the basics where we have started. human is made into man and woman so they are supposed to be together to maintain the balance.
I’m supporting livin relations. It gives more chances to understand each other before getting into a permenant relationship.
What about the society and it rules? (good question)
I will say peolpe should go back to the history and learn why and how these social rules are formed. understand them for the purpose not by words.
But getting closer can bind you both together more, which in case of failure will be a tougher state to deal with. So people should think twice and they should ask themselfs wheather they will be able to deal with this!
People who wish to live together should be given freedom to stay together beacause its the basic human right which doesnt disturb any one else’s freedom.
Comment by Avant-Garde — September 7, 2010 @ 5:59 pm