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		<title>By: basheer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it will be 100%sucessful</description>
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		<title>By: netlander</title>
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		<dc:creator>netlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the major points are

1. objection from RSS 
2. new banking system in india and 
3. banking system is based on saria!

1. RSS do object coz they think that religion like islam and christianity imposed these religions on Indians (Hindus)just like an imposition on europians and they can not tolerate any more. 
2. current banking system is not good for islam and they have to comform to their religion&#039;s teachings while they do banking... LOL.. (the interst accumulated in their account is being used for terrorism-www.thereligionofpeace.com) 
3.Saria laws not only allow them to do such so called good things but also bad things. I welcome the saria criminal law to be imposed on thos who follow saria civil laws.  

About my stand and it is clear that, 
1 if islam follow saria they must follow both civil and criminal lasws and I welcome them.
2. About Banking; it s also good, the so called profit that would be generated out of service charges (when they deposit, take some percentage of it and the same way debit some percentage when they withdraw) will be enough to run the bank specially when islam is busy increasing by numbers. Hope they do not buy catholic cyrian bank (LOL).
3. RSS; Let them uphold their slogans of hinduism to open hindus eyes so that they will not get converte to other religions for money or reservations or cross mariages or other silly/beautiful reasons.

I also appreciate the hard work of Islam and Christians to spread their religion in India. Recently i heard Onam is no more our state festival as the democraZy ruled out based on the numbers on the other side is diminishing.

God Bless Hindustanis!(HCMPBJ-Hindu,Christian,Muslim,Parsi, Budhist &amp; Jains) Let them fight for supremacy of their own religion untill one exists and the rest extinct. 

Awaiting replies....

tail piece... I (am/was) I am not so sure now.. a hindu, baptised to christianity, ran away from it becasue the priest told me not go to other churches though there is Mr.JC (Jesus Christ), trying to find new horizons in Islam. I hope they wont kill me if I run away ... LOL.....

Omar Khayam (that would be the name i select on completion of the rituals i undergo..) 

Guys u must also jump in.. only then you know how cold it is.. and do not criticise or judge that you dont understand. If you understand it, join in islam... there is no return and there is no come back.. everybody&#039;s life is precious at least to themselves.. Hope i will find a way out...

By OK (Omar Khayam)
E&amp;OE (expected is the corrected reading)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the major points are</p>
<p>1. objection from RSS<br />
2. new banking system in india and<br />
3. banking system is based on saria!</p>
<p>1. RSS do object coz they think that religion like islam and christianity imposed these religions on Indians (Hindus)just like an imposition on europians and they can not tolerate any more.<br />
2. current banking system is not good for islam and they have to comform to their religion&#8217;s teachings while they do banking&#8230; LOL.. (the interst accumulated in their account is being used for terrorism-www.thereligionofpeace.com)<br />
3.Saria laws not only allow them to do such so called good things but also bad things. I welcome the saria criminal law to be imposed on thos who follow saria civil laws.  </p>
<p>About my stand and it is clear that,<br />
1 if islam follow saria they must follow both civil and criminal lasws and I welcome them.<br />
2. About Banking; it s also good, the so called profit that would be generated out of service charges (when they deposit, take some percentage of it and the same way debit some percentage when they withdraw) will be enough to run the bank specially when islam is busy increasing by numbers. Hope they do not buy catholic cyrian bank (LOL).<br />
3. RSS; Let them uphold their slogans of hinduism to open hindus eyes so that they will not get converte to other religions for money or reservations or cross mariages or other silly/beautiful reasons.</p>
<p>I also appreciate the hard work of Islam and Christians to spread their religion in India. Recently i heard Onam is no more our state festival as the democraZy ruled out based on the numbers on the other side is diminishing.</p>
<p>God Bless Hindustanis!(HCMPBJ-Hindu,Christian,Muslim,Parsi, Budhist &amp; Jains) Let them fight for supremacy of their own religion untill one exists and the rest extinct. </p>
<p>Awaiting replies&#8230;.</p>
<p>tail piece&#8230; I (am/was) I am not so sure now.. a hindu, baptised to christianity, ran away from it becasue the priest told me not go to other churches though there is Mr.JC (Jesus Christ), trying to find new horizons in Islam. I hope they wont kill me if I run away &#8230; LOL&#8230;..</p>
<p>Omar Khayam (that would be the name i select on completion of the rituals i undergo..) </p>
<p>Guys u must also jump in.. only then you know how cold it is.. and do not criticise or judge that you dont understand. If you understand it, join in islam&#8230; there is no return and there is no come back.. everybody&#8217;s life is precious at least to themselves.. Hope i will find a way out&#8230;</p>
<p>By OK (Omar Khayam)<br />
E&amp;OE (expected is the corrected reading)</p>
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		<title>By: Kenney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atleast these bigots let their gods be within themselves... lets pray for that day.. which is much easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atleast these bigots let their gods be within themselves&#8230; lets pray for that day.. which is much easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Prasanth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prasanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jithin  That was really eye opening. And yes, like you said only if all Bigots could really understand that God doesn&#039;t exist, the world would be a better place. Let&#039;s pray for that day. Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jithin  That was really eye opening. And yes, like you said only if all Bigots could really understand that God doesn&#8217;t exist, the world would be a better place. Let&#8217;s pray for that day. Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: jithin</title>
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		<dc:creator>jithin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe...This is the heights of Irony. A religious Bigot is trying to justify his religion&#039;s faults by showcasing the faults of another religion to an Atheist who believes all religions are bad. 

We all know that God is nothing but a grown ups version of an imaginary friend. An imaginary friend who will help him deal with all the uncertainities in this world. Gives him a false sense of security that somebody larger than himself gives a shit about him and wont let anything happen to him... because he is &quot;Special&quot;. 

So can we prove God does not exist? Of course not !! You cannot prove a negative. So you cannot prove that a giant T pot is not revolving around earth as we speak. But most of us know there is not such t pot(because I just made it up). But if you still want to believe, you may believe in that theory too, nobody can prove you wrong :)

So what&#039;s wrong in having imaginary friends anyway? Well, nothing as long as you keep your imaginary friends to yourself. Don&#039;t start comparing your imaginary friend with your neighbour&#039;s imaginary friend and then start fighting because his imaginary friend doesn&#039;t like your imaginary friend. 

So as far as you keep your religion to yourself and stop worrying about what other people are doing with theirs..sooner than later we&#039;ll have a better world. 

But you wont let that happen would you Prashant :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe&#8230;This is the heights of Irony. A religious Bigot is trying to justify his religion&#8217;s faults by showcasing the faults of another religion to an Atheist who believes all religions are bad. </p>
<p>We all know that God is nothing but a grown ups version of an imaginary friend. An imaginary friend who will help him deal with all the uncertainities in this world. Gives him a false sense of security that somebody larger than himself gives a shit about him and wont let anything happen to him&#8230; because he is &#8220;Special&#8221;. </p>
<p>So can we prove God does not exist? Of course not !! You cannot prove a negative. So you cannot prove that a giant T pot is not revolving around earth as we speak. But most of us know there is not such t pot(because I just made it up). But if you still want to believe, you may believe in that theory too, nobody can prove you wrong <img src='http://www.kenneyjacob.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So what&#8217;s wrong in having imaginary friends anyway? Well, nothing as long as you keep your imaginary friends to yourself. Don&#8217;t start comparing your imaginary friend with your neighbour&#8217;s imaginary friend and then start fighting because his imaginary friend doesn&#8217;t like your imaginary friend. </p>
<p>So as far as you keep your religion to yourself and stop worrying about what other people are doing with theirs..sooner than later we&#8217;ll have a better world. </p>
<p>But you wont let that happen would you Prashant <img src='http://www.kenneyjacob.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Prasanth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prasanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I repeat, some people find happiness in drugs, alcohol, cigars. Others find it in religion. The latter is better anyday!

I am not a RSS member, but I respect and adore the organization that has helped the country at times of adverisities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh#Role_during_the_1962_Sino-Indian_War

Regarding maths and other such organizations I do not understand why you turn a blind eye towards the countless service acts they have done for the society.

And yes, you rightly said - their leaders have turned a community into a group of religious extremists who believe that only their path is correct and who try to destroy all other cultures and religions in the name of jihad. I am not generalising here - I am not telling all Muslims are doing this - but their leaders have succeeded in moulding a certain section of people into religious extremists for their own personal gains. The need of the hour is to identify such leaders (in all religions - incuding santhosh madhavans) and isolate them from the society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I repeat, some people find happiness in drugs, alcohol, cigars. Others find it in religion. The latter is better anyday!</p>
<p>I am not a RSS member, but I respect and adore the organization that has helped the country at times of adverisities.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh#Role_during_the_1962_Sino-Indian_War" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh#Role_during_the_1962_Sino-Indian_War</a></p>
<p>Regarding maths and other such organizations I do not understand why you turn a blind eye towards the countless service acts they have done for the society.</p>
<p>And yes, you rightly said &#8211; their leaders have turned a community into a group of religious extremists who believe that only their path is correct and who try to destroy all other cultures and religions in the name of jihad. I am not generalising here &#8211; I am not telling all Muslims are doing this &#8211; but their leaders have succeeded in moulding a certain section of people into religious extremists for their own personal gains. The need of the hour is to identify such leaders (in all religions &#8211; incuding santhosh madhavans) and isolate them from the society.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenney Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenney Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Prasanth
Now dont tell me that Matha Amrithanandamayi is paying taxes... No religious institution pays taxes.. Someone has been feeding you with wrong information. Matha = Baba = Bishop = (what eveer you call a muslim leader)

Are you trying to say that no one has been criticizing the muslims for moral policing ? 

Have you been attending those RSS classes ?

Muslims are the most discriminated against....but its something that their leaders asked for.  People are scared to rent rooms to muslim bachelors these days. I am not sympathizing..  its all the fault of their leaders.. which made a community into religious extremists. 

Dont get carried away by stories they tell you when you are a child. Just because some story is part of your religous belief it need not be true. Let me tell you.. Moses did nothing.. its just a 5000 year old story. 

You also will suffer if you dont control your leaders. Dont let anyone take you on a ride on the name of religion and nationality. Those are just concepts.. ultimately we are all struggling human beings. 

Taken from the astrology link you gave me

&quot;Studies have repeatedly failed to demonstrate statistically significant relationships between astrological predictions and operationally-defined outcomes.[1][51] Effect size tests of astrology-based hypotheses conclude that the mean accuracy of astrological predictions is no greater than what is expected by chance&quot;

Saw a line about lack of funding for astrology research in that article. One bastard charged 3 lakhs Rs for a small pooja from my friends dad. There is no other easier way to make money. 

And.. never even try to compare ayurveda with astrology. Ayurveda is a proper science with results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Prasanth<br />
Now dont tell me that Matha Amrithanandamayi is paying taxes&#8230; No religious institution pays taxes.. Someone has been feeding you with wrong information. Matha = Baba = Bishop = (what eveer you call a muslim leader)</p>
<p>Are you trying to say that no one has been criticizing the muslims for moral policing ? </p>
<p>Have you been attending those RSS classes ?</p>
<p>Muslims are the most discriminated against&#8230;.but its something that their leaders asked for.  People are scared to rent rooms to muslim bachelors these days. I am not sympathizing..  its all the fault of their leaders.. which made a community into religious extremists. </p>
<p>Dont get carried away by stories they tell you when you are a child. Just because some story is part of your religous belief it need not be true. Let me tell you.. Moses did nothing.. its just a 5000 year old story. </p>
<p>You also will suffer if you dont control your leaders. Dont let anyone take you on a ride on the name of religion and nationality. Those are just concepts.. ultimately we are all struggling human beings. </p>
<p>Taken from the astrology link you gave me</p>
<p>&#8220;Studies have repeatedly failed to demonstrate statistically significant relationships between astrological predictions and operationally-defined outcomes.[1][51] Effect size tests of astrology-based hypotheses conclude that the mean accuracy of astrological predictions is no greater than what is expected by chance&#8221;</p>
<p>Saw a line about lack of funding for astrology research in that article. One bastard charged 3 lakhs Rs for a small pooja from my friends dad. There is no other easier way to make money. </p>
<p>And.. never even try to compare ayurveda with astrology. Ayurveda is a proper science with results.</p>
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		<title>By: Prasanth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prasanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a side note.

We might be copying the Western banking culture - aren&#039;t we copying everything from them? Even our constitution is a &#039;desi-version&#039; of other constitutions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a side note.</p>
<p>We might be copying the Western banking culture &#8211; aren&#8217;t we copying everything from them? Even our constitution is a &#8216;desi-version&#8217; of other constitutions!</p>
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		<title>By: Prasanth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prasanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kenney, When you claim fraud Swamis and maths ultimately destroy human lives, do you realise that a staggering number of families in Kerala have no food to eat because their husbands go boozing? Which is worse? We are not talking of santhosh madhavans here. They are too cheap to be called a Swami. It is only their claim. People should ultimately have common sense to distinguish between a swami and a real estate/pornography don. I agree there are still many more fake swamis out there. Similarly, there are many more Arabi magicians, and priests out there.

At least most of the maths in the country rub by organizations/people like Sri Ramakrishna Mission, The Art of Living, Baba Ramdev, Mata Amritananda Mayi have done a lot of work towards the upliftment of the society. They have done more work in tsunami affected regions than the government. While none of them ask for any benefit or reward for their service - it does not mean we shouldn&#039;t give credit to them. Even when such organizations build houses and rehabilitate victims irrespective of caste, creed, color or religion they are also taxed unlike many &quot;other&quot; religious organizations. 

If true secularism is what is required there should be no minority appeasement. Islamic banking is just another way of minority appeasement. The media and people make a huge outcry when women below the age of 50 are not allowed to enter Sabarimala, but when Muslim women are not allowed to enter any mosque no one has any issue. Because of the pub incident in Mangalore everyone associates the RSS/Bajrang Dal with moral policing. Similarly can&#039;t we associate Muslims with terrorism? When politicians dare to question the existence of Rama they should dare to question the existence of Jesus and Allah. If Moses separated the sea with a wand so can Rama build a bridge to Lanka! Religion is beyond science and it is a fact. If science could provide answers to all questions then the existence of God can be disproved, but as long as it cannot answer all God we have to believe that God exists. Astrology is a very vast science. Do read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology#Astrology_and_science if you are interested. If you deny astrology is a science, then the next in line would be ayurveda.

On a lighter note, before diving into the history of Mata Amritananda Mayi doesn&#039;t it sound logical to even try to find out what goes on inside Madarassas and other &quot;religious&quot; training camps? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kenney, When you claim fraud Swamis and maths ultimately destroy human lives, do you realise that a staggering number of families in Kerala have no food to eat because their husbands go boozing? Which is worse? We are not talking of santhosh madhavans here. They are too cheap to be called a Swami. It is only their claim. People should ultimately have common sense to distinguish between a swami and a real estate/pornography don. I agree there are still many more fake swamis out there. Similarly, there are many more Arabi magicians, and priests out there.</p>
<p>At least most of the maths in the country rub by organizations/people like Sri Ramakrishna Mission, The Art of Living, Baba Ramdev, Mata Amritananda Mayi have done a lot of work towards the upliftment of the society. They have done more work in tsunami affected regions than the government. While none of them ask for any benefit or reward for their service &#8211; it does not mean we shouldn&#8217;t give credit to them. Even when such organizations build houses and rehabilitate victims irrespective of caste, creed, color or religion they are also taxed unlike many &#8220;other&#8221; religious organizations. </p>
<p>If true secularism is what is required there should be no minority appeasement. Islamic banking is just another way of minority appeasement. The media and people make a huge outcry when women below the age of 50 are not allowed to enter Sabarimala, but when Muslim women are not allowed to enter any mosque no one has any issue. Because of the pub incident in Mangalore everyone associates the RSS/Bajrang Dal with moral policing. Similarly can&#8217;t we associate Muslims with terrorism? When politicians dare to question the existence of Rama they should dare to question the existence of Jesus and Allah. If Moses separated the sea with a wand so can Rama build a bridge to Lanka! Religion is beyond science and it is a fact. If science could provide answers to all questions then the existence of God can be disproved, but as long as it cannot answer all God we have to believe that God exists. Astrology is a very vast science. Do read this <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology#Astrology_and_science" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology#Astrology_and_science</a> if you are interested. If you deny astrology is a science, then the next in line would be ayurveda.</p>
<p>On a lighter note, before diving into the history of Mata Amritananda Mayi doesn&#8217;t it sound logical to even try to find out what goes on inside Madarassas and other &#8220;religious&#8221; training camps? <img src='http://www.kenneyjacob.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kenney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jayapradeep

I think you did not read the comments fully, I had mentioned that it was Christian knights who started the current banking system. And the modern rules of banking we follow is a pure copy of the western system. 

Regarding your award thing I could not find any online references. If you can post some link here that would be really great. BTW, I never supported the government and its actions... so please dont try to dilute the issue at hand. 

Whoever may over look the islamic system but ultimately they have to get RBI approval. No ulema can come and change the rules tomorrow just like that. 

Now you are against 5000 crore coming to Kerala.... just because of inflation... I bet.. you are against this... just because this comes through an islamic bank. Otherwise.. we will hear everyone screaming.... we need investment.. investment... investment.... 

About government controlling temples.. I am of the opinion that we dont need any places of worship.. churches.. and mosques included. If we allow them to funtion.. they should be under strict governemtn control... everything they do.. and teach should be regulated... 

Just for argument sake.. do we know much about Matha Amrithanandmayis past ? do we know much about her funding sources ? Do we know how the christian church operates ? When it comes to religions.... we dont know anything..

your water alcohol example is very true... soo alcohol is the problem right... exactly the same... religion is the problem.. right ???  whom ever you mix it  with.. you get problems... 

I did not say anything about sharia.. did I ? 

I still maintain the notion that astrology is not a science.. its basically a fraud arrangement to cheat people. Can you contest me ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jayapradeep</p>
<p>I think you did not read the comments fully, I had mentioned that it was Christian knights who started the current banking system. And the modern rules of banking we follow is a pure copy of the western system. </p>
<p>Regarding your award thing I could not find any online references. If you can post some link here that would be really great. BTW, I never supported the government and its actions&#8230; so please dont try to dilute the issue at hand. </p>
<p>Whoever may over look the islamic system but ultimately they have to get RBI approval. No ulema can come and change the rules tomorrow just like that. </p>
<p>Now you are against 5000 crore coming to Kerala&#8230;. just because of inflation&#8230; I bet.. you are against this&#8230; just because this comes through an islamic bank. Otherwise.. we will hear everyone screaming&#8230;. we need investment.. investment&#8230; investment&#8230;. </p>
<p>About government controlling temples.. I am of the opinion that we dont need any places of worship.. churches.. and mosques included. If we allow them to funtion.. they should be under strict governemtn control&#8230; everything they do.. and teach should be regulated&#8230; </p>
<p>Just for argument sake.. do we know much about Matha Amrithanandmayis past ? do we know much about her funding sources ? Do we know how the christian church operates ? When it comes to religions&#8230;. we dont know anything..</p>
<p>your water alcohol example is very true&#8230; soo alcohol is the problem right&#8230; exactly the same&#8230; religion is the problem.. right ???  whom ever you mix it  with.. you get problems&#8230; </p>
<p>I did not say anything about sharia.. did I ? </p>
<p>I still maintain the notion that astrology is not a science.. its basically a fraud arrangement to cheat people. Can you contest me ?</p>
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