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		<title>By: Arun Mohan</title>
		<link>http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2008/05/27/readers-opinion-what-should-a-child-learn-from-school/comment-page-1/#comment-1218</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I joine with JMJ&#039;s comment.......... Testing is now a social ego for society.......... And we need to prepare our society that we should compare our child&#039;s performance, only with his inputs and capabilities, not his neighbours.......... But it takes time...... till then, the only means is to abolish testing itself.......... Testing should be done to see the level of understanding..... But it should be on individualist parameters, not common......... In today&#039;s circumstances it difficult to do

But need to understand that instead of testing, apprasial is better, as teachers and parents know what is potentiality of the student and his capabilities...... They can compare it with his performance, just like how in corporate world........ Today in all sectors, we want smart performers, not performers.........

I have computers to calculate for me, so i need smart people to operate it and do the task in the most smartest way......... I don&#039;t need that guy to learn multiple tables of 12 or 14 byheart or because of byheart learning, he got good marks in exams</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I joine with JMJ&#8217;s comment&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Testing is now a social ego for society&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. And we need to prepare our society that we should compare our child&#8217;s performance, only with his inputs and capabilities, not his neighbours&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. But it takes time&#8230;&#8230; till then, the only means is to abolish testing itself&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Testing should be done to see the level of understanding&#8230;.. But it should be on individualist parameters, not common&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; In today&#8217;s circumstances it difficult to do</p>
<p>But need to understand that instead of testing, apprasial is better, as teachers and parents know what is potentiality of the student and his capabilities&#8230;&#8230; They can compare it with his performance, just like how in corporate world&#8230;&#8230;.. Today in all sectors, we want smart performers, not performers&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I have computers to calculate for me, so i need smart people to operate it and do the task in the most smartest way&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; I don&#8217;t need that guy to learn multiple tables of 12 or 14 byheart or because of byheart learning, he got good marks in exams</p>
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		<title>By: JMJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 08:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Anoop &amp; Kenny

I would not really agree with you about testing. Only with testing will the teachers/parents know how far the child has reached and if the child is ready for the next step.

The problem with testing in India is that - it is made to look as something horrible - and if you dont pass the test you are good for nothing.

What do you do when a child tries to walk the first time and falls down? You curse the floor for making the child fall and encourage him to try again. Studies and Testing also should be like that. 

I think test&#039;s have taken a demons shape in our minds because of our over expecting - over egoistic parents &amp; society who want to show off that my child is better than yours.

I was speaking to my cousin sister yesterday. She had got 80% marks in her 10th std. But She was really sad - cause instead of congratulating her, her parents were comparing her to the neighbors daughter who got 95%...

That is where the mistake lies - we compare, we degrade their self esteem...we destroy them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Anoop &amp; Kenny</p>
<p>I would not really agree with you about testing. Only with testing will the teachers/parents know how far the child has reached and if the child is ready for the next step.</p>
<p>The problem with testing in India is that &#8211; it is made to look as something horrible &#8211; and if you dont pass the test you are good for nothing.</p>
<p>What do you do when a child tries to walk the first time and falls down? You curse the floor for making the child fall and encourage him to try again. Studies and Testing also should be like that. </p>
<p>I think test&#8217;s have taken a demons shape in our minds because of our over expecting &#8211; over egoistic parents &amp; society who want to show off that my child is better than yours.</p>
<p>I was speaking to my cousin sister yesterday. She had got 80% marks in her 10th std. But She was really sad &#8211; cause instead of congratulating her, her parents were comparing her to the neighbors daughter who got 95%&#8230;</p>
<p>That is where the mistake lies &#8211; we compare, we degrade their self esteem&#8230;we destroy them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kenney Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenney Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The master finally speaks !!!!!
You have made a great point. Who are we to test a childs knowledge ?</description>
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You have made a great point. Who are we to test a childs knowledge ?</p>
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		<title>By: Anoop Alias</title>
		<link>http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2008/05/27/readers-opinion-what-should-a-child-learn-from-school/comment-page-1/#comment-1202</link>
		<dc:creator>Anoop Alias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DPEP was good.Education is not mugging up..

There should not be any tests...Who are we to test a kid?. remember Albert Einstein failed in many exams...the exams judged him unfit..which he was not

For the first 12 years - The entire academic cirriculam would be projects and collecting and updating information from knowledge bases like wikipedia.

Writing journals ,reading and discovering books.............. no test no valuation etc

12 years is a very long time and any sane person would have developed a whole better lot of knowledge by that time 

The problem is people dont trust..unless we put a test? how do we know if people learn?how do we choose someone for  a job...?

Well God was not a fool...human beings have a natural instinct to learn and if  a child can learn to walk in 2 months...i am sure he can master a lot in 12 years in a academic nvironment

I or anyone have learned something ..because i have came accross a lot of books visuals sounds etc about many things and NOT! because i wrote 1000+ exams 

Just make a FREE world for a person to think!. - that must be the sole purpose of education</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DPEP was good.Education is not mugging up..</p>
<p>There should not be any tests&#8230;Who are we to test a kid?. remember Albert Einstein failed in many exams&#8230;the exams judged him unfit..which he was not</p>
<p>For the first 12 years &#8211; The entire academic cirriculam would be projects and collecting and updating information from knowledge bases like wikipedia.</p>
<p>Writing journals ,reading and discovering books&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. no test no valuation etc</p>
<p>12 years is a very long time and any sane person would have developed a whole better lot of knowledge by that time </p>
<p>The problem is people dont trust..unless we put a test? how do we know if people learn?how do we choose someone for  a job&#8230;?</p>
<p>Well God was not a fool&#8230;human beings have a natural instinct to learn and if  a child can learn to walk in 2 months&#8230;i am sure he can master a lot in 12 years in a academic nvironment</p>
<p>I or anyone have learned something ..because i have came accross a lot of books visuals sounds etc about many things and NOT! because i wrote 1000+ exams </p>
<p>Just make a FREE world for a person to think!. &#8211; that must be the sole purpose of education</p>
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		<title>By: Dhanesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dhanesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what should be taught can any one say what could be taught?Strictly keeping in mind the public education system?
And do anyone realize that the much critisized  DPEP 
had many of these suggestions as its goals and failed due to poor implementation?
Our experts well know what should be taught but i guess our system is still not ready to change..
With out a stick in his/her hand teachers are not confident to teach..
I hope any teacher teaching at any primary school post a comment and bring us back to the ground reality..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what should be taught can any one say what could be taught?Strictly keeping in mind the public education system?<br />
And do anyone realize that the much critisized  DPEP<br />
had many of these suggestions as its goals and failed due to poor implementation?<br />
Our experts well know what should be taught but i guess our system is still not ready to change..<br />
With out a stick in his/her hand teachers are not confident to teach..<br />
I hope any teacher teaching at any primary school post a comment and bring us back to the ground reality..</p>
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		<title>By: Kenney Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenney Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man !!!! I was going to suggest that movie to everyone. Its a must watch.</description>
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		<title>By: JMJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lakshmi

Computers should not be thought as a science till the kid reaches 11th std where the students start specializing for their stream. Computers should be used as a learning aid and a communication tool in the primary school.


Regarding the social culture of keeping the girls separate from the boys in Kerala - that is the worst I have seen in Kerala. You talk to your opposite Sex - then the whole school talks about you having an affair with him/her. I have never been able to figure this formula out...

But end of the day - your social skills get affected big time. I am in no way advocating the other extreme here. There must be opportunity for the kids to develop a healthy pear relationship with their opposite sex.

I was watching this movie the day before yesterday &quot; Take the Lead&quot;. It is a movie about how Dancing is used as a tool to bring together students and making them responsible by making them respect each other and every one. I think dancing should be made compulsory for the primary kids - not only will it keep them healthy - it will sharpen their minds also...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lakshmi</p>
<p>Computers should not be thought as a science till the kid reaches 11th std where the students start specializing for their stream. Computers should be used as a learning aid and a communication tool in the primary school.</p>
<p>Regarding the social culture of keeping the girls separate from the boys in Kerala &#8211; that is the worst I have seen in Kerala. You talk to your opposite Sex &#8211; then the whole school talks about you having an affair with him/her. I have never been able to figure this formula out&#8230;</p>
<p>But end of the day &#8211; your social skills get affected big time. I am in no way advocating the other extreme here. There must be opportunity for the kids to develop a healthy pear relationship with their opposite sex.</p>
<p>I was watching this movie the day before yesterday &#8221; Take the Lead&#8221;. It is a movie about how Dancing is used as a tool to bring together students and making them responsible by making them respect each other and every one. I think dancing should be made compulsory for the primary kids &#8211; not only will it keep them healthy &#8211; it will sharpen their minds also&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kenney Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenney Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 08:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Arun Mohan
Dont worry, if people call you crazy cos every person who has changed the world was once called crazy. Normal life wont bring about changes, only extra ordinary ones does. 

I am also of the opinion that no formal maths or science should be taught until 8 years of age. Like you said, exploration and language skills should be given importance. Writing can be avoided and drawing can be included. 

Till that age, no judgements should be made and the child should never be compared with others. Games and group activities should be focus. 

Class tests should be conducted to identify the child&#039;s weaknesses and not to prepare a rank list. 

Relationships with the opposite sex is a major problem, especially in Kerala. We have a lot of perverts  cos we dont know whats the appropriate behaviour is. Many are not comfortable dealing with members of the other sex. If we must learn to respect the opposite sex, then its a must that we interact and socialise with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Arun Mohan<br />
Dont worry, if people call you crazy cos every person who has changed the world was once called crazy. Normal life wont bring about changes, only extra ordinary ones does. </p>
<p>I am also of the opinion that no formal maths or science should be taught until 8 years of age. Like you said, exploration and language skills should be given importance. Writing can be avoided and drawing can be included. </p>
<p>Till that age, no judgements should be made and the child should never be compared with others. Games and group activities should be focus. </p>
<p>Class tests should be conducted to identify the child&#8217;s weaknesses and not to prepare a rank list. </p>
<p>Relationships with the opposite sex is a major problem, especially in Kerala. We have a lot of perverts  cos we dont know whats the appropriate behaviour is. Many are not comfortable dealing with members of the other sex. If we must learn to respect the opposite sex, then its a must that we interact and socialise with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun Mohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 06:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Infact, the school where i did my schooling till 8th, was Chinmaya Vidyalaya-Ernakulam..... Chinmaya Cochin was a special kind of school in co-education, where in a bench where there was either one boy in middle and two girls on side or one girl in middle and two boys on sides....... Its this kind of co-education happening in Chinmaya Cochin, that makes Chinmaya girls very bold and so open to boys....... Infact, When my friend JMJ said is right....... Around 99% of schools in kerala, make girls to sit separte from boys..... This creates a Girls&#039;s Zone and Boy&#039;s zone and openess between girls and boys are less........... 

It would be so suprising to know, in Chinmaya, both Girls and Boys do have swimming class times in common, though its complusory for girls to wear covered swimsuits.......... There is very little segregation between boys and girls there...... It really make them so bold.........

I even suggest, our current uniforms styles should change....... Most of girls, feel extra-secured when they wear fully covered churidars......... Whereas those girls, who wear wrap-arounds or suit-skirts or knee-down skirts feel some sense of insecurity...... to cover up the insecurity, they make a good rapport with boys, as they feel its a security matter......... This is too one of the principle at Chinmaya, where girls till 12th have to wear knee length Wraps-rounds or skirts........ I felt, often this sense of insecurity, pull them down to make good friendship with some boys, as a security.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Infact, the school where i did my schooling till 8th, was Chinmaya Vidyalaya-Ernakulam&#8230;.. Chinmaya Cochin was a special kind of school in co-education, where in a bench where there was either one boy in middle and two girls on side or one girl in middle and two boys on sides&#8230;&#8230;. Its this kind of co-education happening in Chinmaya Cochin, that makes Chinmaya girls very bold and so open to boys&#8230;&#8230;. Infact, When my friend JMJ said is right&#8230;&#8230;. Around 99% of schools in kerala, make girls to sit separte from boys&#8230;.. This creates a Girls&#8217;s Zone and Boy&#8217;s zone and openess between girls and boys are less&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. </p>
<p>It would be so suprising to know, in Chinmaya, both Girls and Boys do have swimming class times in common, though its complusory for girls to wear covered swimsuits&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. There is very little segregation between boys and girls there&#8230;&#8230; It really make them so bold&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I even suggest, our current uniforms styles should change&#8230;&#8230;. Most of girls, feel extra-secured when they wear fully covered churidars&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; Whereas those girls, who wear wrap-arounds or suit-skirts or knee-down skirts feel some sense of insecurity&#8230;&#8230; to cover up the insecurity, they make a good rapport with boys, as they feel its a security matter&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; This is too one of the principle at Chinmaya, where girls till 12th have to wear knee length Wraps-rounds or skirts&#8230;&#8230;.. I felt, often this sense of insecurity, pull them down to make good friendship with some boys, as a security&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: laxmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>laxmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the comments are worth but you people forgot to mention at which class computer science education should be introduced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the comments are worth but you people forgot to mention at which class computer science education should be introduced.</p>
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