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		<title>By: Anoop</title>
		<link>http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2008/04/09/education-business-in-kerala-good-or-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator>Anoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from computer and electronics, now there is courses like Fashion Designing, Film/Media, Printing, Textile, Automobile, Diary, Pharmacy, and a lot of medical related technical courses. these are diploma or vocational courses and doesnt require engg background.
Education businesses are promoting this type of courses now. But most of them lacks what is called &#039;quality&#039;. It should be improved and it will happen only if more people gets into this fields and more reputed institutes start this type of courses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from computer and electronics, now there is courses like Fashion Designing, Film/Media, Printing, Textile, Automobile, Diary, Pharmacy, and a lot of medical related technical courses. these are diploma or vocational courses and doesnt require engg background.<br />
Education businesses are promoting this type of courses now. But most of them lacks what is called &#8216;quality&#8217;. It should be improved and it will happen only if more people gets into this fields and more reputed institutes start this type of courses.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2008/04/09/education-business-in-kerala-good-or-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-939</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you totally. There is no need to go for +2, instead students can go for a diploma course. Its far better than leanring english, physics and chemistry and biology. 

(The above said is applicable only for students who are planning to go for computer or electronics)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you totally. There is no need to go for +2, instead students can go for a diploma course. Its far better than leanring english, physics and chemistry and biology. </p>
<p>(The above said is applicable only for students who are planning to go for computer or electronics)</p>
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		<title>By: Anoop</title>
		<link>http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2008/04/09/education-business-in-kerala-good-or-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>Anoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi friendz

I would like to point u out a thing which appears to be a trap for students who make their decision. A student who passes out from high school was able to choose groups like commerce, Ist group, IInd group, Arts..etc in our good old pre-degree system. But now in the +2 system, there is a group called science grp and it appears to be helpful to &#039;write entrance for med or engg&#039;. Here, he/she doen&#039;t get chance to think of a specialisation. Like If one don&#039;t want to go for medical education, he can avoid the biology part ...etc. Anyway, the target is only &#039;entrance&#039;. But it will be better if he can choose from a variety of subject in he can specialise, rather than for engg./ medical field. Today there are a vast veriety of Degree/Diploma cources in many interesting and offering subjects. But people doesnt even know abt these, and simply ends up their choice between these two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi friendz</p>
<p>I would like to point u out a thing which appears to be a trap for students who make their decision. A student who passes out from high school was able to choose groups like commerce, Ist group, IInd group, Arts..etc in our good old pre-degree system. But now in the +2 system, there is a group called science grp and it appears to be helpful to &#8216;write entrance for med or engg&#8217;. Here, he/she doen&#8217;t get chance to think of a specialisation. Like If one don&#8217;t want to go for medical education, he can avoid the biology part &#8230;etc. Anyway, the target is only &#8216;entrance&#8217;. But it will be better if he can choose from a variety of subject in he can specialise, rather than for engg./ medical field. Today there are a vast veriety of Degree/Diploma cources in many interesting and offering subjects. But people doesnt even know abt these, and simply ends up their choice between these two.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose William</title>
		<link>http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2008/04/09/education-business-in-kerala-good-or-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-908</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hai guys
education is always a business now. all the self financing institutions sustain only to make money. the political parties in kerala play game in the begining of the academic year so as to allow the lobbies in other states to get the students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hai guys<br />
education is always a business now. all the self financing institutions sustain only to make money. the political parties in kerala play game in the begining of the academic year so as to allow the lobbies in other states to get the students.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JMJ
You are under estimating Indians. We adopted to the huge change that happened when our economy opened up. Look at our outsourcing industry, we have adapted to the changing needs of the world economy faster than any other nation and has grown to be a trillion dollor economy. Among the 10 richest people of the world, 4 are Indians. 

We are ready for any change. We can absorb anything. All we need is freedom. Manmohan singh freed our economy and our growth rate shot up from 3% to 7%

The same will happen to education also. Free the collges from the govt regulations and see the magic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JMJ<br />
You are under estimating Indians. We adopted to the huge change that happened when our economy opened up. Look at our outsourcing industry, we have adapted to the changing needs of the world economy faster than any other nation and has grown to be a trillion dollor economy. Among the 10 richest people of the world, 4 are Indians. </p>
<p>We are ready for any change. We can absorb anything. All we need is freedom. Manmohan singh freed our economy and our growth rate shot up from 3% to 7%</p>
<p>The same will happen to education also. Free the collges from the govt regulations and see the magic.</p>
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		<title>By: JMJ</title>
		<link>http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2008/04/09/education-business-in-kerala-good-or-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>JMJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more point I would like to make in regard with improving our education system - We are used to getting so much bad quality stuff everyday - why would any one bother to ask for better - or - why would any one bother to give anything better - be it roads, be it buildings, be it service, be it food, be it education...

There is absolutely no motivation for a private individual to  improve... and unfortunately the Government of India lacks commitment and resolve to do things the hard way - they are a bunch of appeasers than leaders...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more point I would like to make in regard with improving our education system &#8211; We are used to getting so much bad quality stuff everyday &#8211; why would any one bother to ask for better &#8211; or &#8211; why would any one bother to give anything better &#8211; be it roads, be it buildings, be it service, be it food, be it education&#8230;</p>
<p>There is absolutely no motivation for a private individual to  improve&#8230; and unfortunately the Government of India lacks commitment and resolve to do things the hard way &#8211; they are a bunch of appeasers than leaders&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JMJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guys

I am not saying that one system is better than the other or the other system is bad. I am saying that the Indian public is not yet ready for a free market system.

Till today people have been told that you have to study so many subjects to get a PHD/Degree/Diploma/Certificate. Now suddenly - you tell them you can choose what to study - How many children/parents will be able to take a decision. And guess who is helping them take the decisions - the same college who want to sell their seat.

To promote the free market culture - the UGC started approving Deemed Universities. And what is really happening - People are giving money to get admission into these Deemed universities - who decide the syllabus that the students will study, they conduct their own exams, and give their own certificates.

It is just that the people in India are not ready for such a huge change. People like you and me may be able to make that decision, cause our parents are well educated.

Like Ranjith said “Our education system needs to be revamped!” before we can make it free market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys</p>
<p>I am not saying that one system is better than the other or the other system is bad. I am saying that the Indian public is not yet ready for a free market system.</p>
<p>Till today people have been told that you have to study so many subjects to get a PHD/Degree/Diploma/Certificate. Now suddenly &#8211; you tell them you can choose what to study &#8211; How many children/parents will be able to take a decision. And guess who is helping them take the decisions &#8211; the same college who want to sell their seat.</p>
<p>To promote the free market culture &#8211; the UGC started approving Deemed Universities. And what is really happening &#8211; People are giving money to get admission into these Deemed universities &#8211; who decide the syllabus that the students will study, they conduct their own exams, and give their own certificates.</p>
<p>It is just that the people in India are not ready for such a huge change. People like you and me may be able to make that decision, cause our parents are well educated.</p>
<p>Like Ranjith said “Our education system needs to be revamped!” before we can make it free market.</p>
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		<title>By: Issac Cheriyathu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Issac Cheriyathu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JMJ

Well, the free market economy is not and ideal one. It is the practical one. The socialist economy is a Utopian idea which is rarely sustainable in the long run.

About the credit bust : A free market also comes with individual responsibility. The people who takes the loan also have the responsibility to check whether it is possible for them to make the payments even after the initial interest-only honeymoon. People should not be taking a mortgage for an amount just because it is available. So the main parties that are affected are the lenders and borrowers who stretched their borrowing limit. This bust is the automatic correction by which the market rectifies the old mistakes.

India&#039;s education has only improved after the &#039;liberalization&#039;. Trust me, with all the vices of the current education system, your certificate still has a lot of value. If you back it up with your own talent, that is.

And if at all the certificate lacks any value, it is because the student is not being trained to become an engineer. When a student blindly follows the current education system and graduates with a BTech with good results, the best job that he is getting trained to do is to become a lecturer: to teach other students. The student is clueless about the actual work in the real world. It is not to say that she or he would never be able to start working as a professional, but the person would actually need more training just to start the job that he is supposed to be trained for in the first place.

If the same system of offering a vast variety of subjects  as electives and let the student chooses what she or he wants, then an engineering education becomes just what it is meant to be, adding value to the students and helps them to do what they want. If someone wants to specialize in designing ECU (Engine control unit) of F1 cars, they will be able to choose a few subjects on control theory and micro-controllers from the electronics department, some programming subjects from computer science department and some thermal engineering and Engines subjects from the mechanical engineering department and come out as an engineer who knows what he is doing. 

So, treating education as a consumer product is exactly the practical solution. But that will do away with the universities and colleges deciding  a fixed syllabus. Such monopolies and restrictions are hindering potential of a lot of individuals.

This should be complimented by strong industry involvement in education. The internship concept is catching up now a days and it provides a very strong tool for the student to achieve a real world relevant training so that when he or she passes out, the resume will already have experience on day one. The internship should be of two or three months period and students should be able to do it from S5 onwards. At that time they would already have the basic concepts that would help them to perform certain tasks at a company and the companies can utilize this as a way to evaluate different candidates who can be potential employees and also to get some work done at a cheap price.

About values: A free market does not do away with values. A person cannot achieve success in any avenue, whether it is business or in a corporate environment, without the core personal values. But in the current system it develops neither any values nor competence.


@ADMIN &quot;Universities there are the research centers for various companies.&quot;

It is a win-win situation. Students get paid or get their fees paid by the companies and they get to do some industry relevant actual research that produces high quality stuff rather than copying some old project from some friend or from internet to get the requirements met . The companies get their work done and could possibly hire these students if they are satisfied with the performance. 

@Renjith &quot;Our education system needs to be revamped!&quot;

Amen to that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JMJ</p>
<p>Well, the free market economy is not and ideal one. It is the practical one. The socialist economy is a Utopian idea which is rarely sustainable in the long run.</p>
<p>About the credit bust : A free market also comes with individual responsibility. The people who takes the loan also have the responsibility to check whether it is possible for them to make the payments even after the initial interest-only honeymoon. People should not be taking a mortgage for an amount just because it is available. So the main parties that are affected are the lenders and borrowers who stretched their borrowing limit. This bust is the automatic correction by which the market rectifies the old mistakes.</p>
<p>India&#8217;s education has only improved after the &#8216;liberalization&#8217;. Trust me, with all the vices of the current education system, your certificate still has a lot of value. If you back it up with your own talent, that is.</p>
<p>And if at all the certificate lacks any value, it is because the student is not being trained to become an engineer. When a student blindly follows the current education system and graduates with a BTech with good results, the best job that he is getting trained to do is to become a lecturer: to teach other students. The student is clueless about the actual work in the real world. It is not to say that she or he would never be able to start working as a professional, but the person would actually need more training just to start the job that he is supposed to be trained for in the first place.</p>
<p>If the same system of offering a vast variety of subjects  as electives and let the student chooses what she or he wants, then an engineering education becomes just what it is meant to be, adding value to the students and helps them to do what they want. If someone wants to specialize in designing ECU (Engine control unit) of F1 cars, they will be able to choose a few subjects on control theory and micro-controllers from the electronics department, some programming subjects from computer science department and some thermal engineering and Engines subjects from the mechanical engineering department and come out as an engineer who knows what he is doing. </p>
<p>So, treating education as a consumer product is exactly the practical solution. But that will do away with the universities and colleges deciding  a fixed syllabus. Such monopolies and restrictions are hindering potential of a lot of individuals.</p>
<p>This should be complimented by strong industry involvement in education. The internship concept is catching up now a days and it provides a very strong tool for the student to achieve a real world relevant training so that when he or she passes out, the resume will already have experience on day one. The internship should be of two or three months period and students should be able to do it from S5 onwards. At that time they would already have the basic concepts that would help them to perform certain tasks at a company and the companies can utilize this as a way to evaluate different candidates who can be potential employees and also to get some work done at a cheap price.</p>
<p>About values: A free market does not do away with values. A person cannot achieve success in any avenue, whether it is business or in a corporate environment, without the core personal values. But in the current system it develops neither any values nor competence.</p>
<p>@ADMIN &#8220;Universities there are the research centers for various companies.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is a win-win situation. Students get paid or get their fees paid by the companies and they get to do some industry relevant actual research that produces high quality stuff rather than copying some old project from some friend or from internet to get the requirements met . The companies get their work done and could possibly hire these students if they are satisfied with the performance. </p>
<p>@Renjith &#8220;Our education system needs to be revamped!&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen to that!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JMJ
Free market economy is not the best economy. But it is the only economy that works. 

Also India was never Asias best. But now we have a chance to be the best, if we can cope up with the changes. A controlled system will never be able change fast enough. 

In US education is commercialised, and thats the only reason they are the best. Universities there are the research centers for various companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JMJ<br />
Free market economy is not the best economy. But it is the only economy that works. </p>
<p>Also India was never Asias best. But now we have a chance to be the best, if we can cope up with the changes. A controlled system will never be able change fast enough. </p>
<p>In US education is commercialised, and thats the only reason they are the best. Universities there are the research centers for various companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Renjith</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, eliminate the &#039;Kutti&#039; politics from the campus. then the reservation. i witnessed to a situation like there were 12 seats in total up to 8 is different reservations like backward community, sportz, arts, NCC etc..but the tragedy is those guys who secured admission throgh this reservation-HOLES will quit after a few months. so give it to the deserved ones. and another things is educate the parents first. let the children to choose their carrer, if everybody became doctors and engineers how the world would be?

The big difference which i experienced in the IT industry is like: in India everyone is a COMPUTER Engineer. but ask him to write a good parser, or similar work. a very few can do it. but in USA or any other countries, the computer engineer would be the person who knows the &#039;computer science&#039;. there ppl are going because of their own taste and interest, and here ppl are going and securing a seat because of the parents interest. 

Our education system needs to be revamped!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, eliminate the &#8216;Kutti&#8217; politics from the campus. then the reservation. i witnessed to a situation like there were 12 seats in total up to 8 is different reservations like backward community, sportz, arts, NCC etc..but the tragedy is those guys who secured admission throgh this reservation-HOLES will quit after a few months. so give it to the deserved ones. and another things is educate the parents first. let the children to choose their carrer, if everybody became doctors and engineers how the world would be?</p>
<p>The big difference which i experienced in the IT industry is like: in India everyone is a COMPUTER Engineer. but ask him to write a good parser, or similar work. a very few can do it. but in USA or any other countries, the computer engineer would be the person who knows the &#8216;computer science&#8217;. there ppl are going because of their own taste and interest, and here ppl are going and securing a seat because of the parents interest. </p>
<p>Our education system needs to be revamped!</p>
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