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A student of MACFAST college committed suicide. The suicide note said, her college management asked her to buy a new laptop, cos her old laptop got stolen. Is that reason enough to end ones life ? I dont know maybe it is.
SFI attacked the college. Typical response from an irresponsible student organisation. College authorities taken to police station for questioning. Law takes its route. Newspaper publish the news as if they got a scoop. Anything against self financing colleges will sell in Kerala.
In 2004 another girl committed suicide. Rajani S Anand. She was a student of College of Engineering Adoor, an unfortunate Semi private, semi government college, of which I was also a student of. Our poor principle, who joined the college only months after Rajani left the college was crucified. He lived under police protection for weeks.
I was final year then, and I know what exactly had happened. But the irresponsible media reports blamed the college and the authorities. We as students were not allowed to speak the truth. We tried to do a press conference and we got threats over the phone, as it would be against the already spread propaganda.
The biggest media culprit - MalayalaManorama
Check out the news report in Hindu, another well respected newspaper.
Her father, Sivanandan, quietly sobs as he recounts his beloved daughter’s relentless efforts which helped her secure admission to the engineering college at Adoor. “She used to burn the midnight oil. Having cleared the Plus Two course with distinction, she had her sights set on the MBBS. She finally settled for engineering, as it would entail less financial burden on the family. Since we could not afford to send her to a coaching institute, she relied on used books procured from other students and cleared the entrance examination”.
There are factual mistakes in this report and If I were to point them out, I would be insulting a dead soul. Its a serious crime to insult the dead. But torturing the living is not at all a problem. Also see the tone of reporting. Its written to provoke emotion.
After a few days the hindu business line reports.
The media in Kerala displayed a dismal level of biased, emotive and unprofessional reporting in the way it handled the Rajani episode. Most reports - especially in the local dailies and television channels - were more of editorials that outright cast aspersions on all and sundry, beginning with leads that accused the criminal and pronounced the verdict in a trial, as it were, rather than sticking to the old and trusted, unprejudiced method of reporting who did what, where, when, how and why.
For instance, how many in the media followed up - or scooped in advance - the claim of Cherian Scaria, Principal of the College of Engineering, Adoor, that Rajani had never been asked to remit any tuition fee since her fee used to be remitted in time by the Scheduled Castes/ Scheduled Tribes Welfare Department?
The principal said Rajani had not been attending classes since August 7, and the college had not received any application for her transfer certificate so far. Since the college did not have a hostel facility for girls, Rajani was reportedly staying at a private hostel in Adoor. Being a scheduled caste student, she received Rs 2,314 as stipend on June 9, 2003 and the stipend for the current academic year, Rs 2,410, was sanctioned on April 1, 2004. But nobody had turned up to receive the money, he added.
Are these claims true? If so, what is the role of the State and the college management in the tragic death of Rajani?
Did anyone try to find out the truth. The bitter truth, that would make all the protests, all the property destruction. all the emotional out cry look stupid. No one will ever will. Our poor college lost quite a lot of money repairing the damages done by the attackers. Our principles life got screwed settling the case against him.
Who gained ? The political vultures use her photograph in every occasion they can. Check out the trivandrum streets.
Coming back to the new suicide case. I have a very humble request to the media and student organisations. Please try to find out the truth before you act or publish. Please dont screw other people lives.
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You are absolutely right….
The media is undoubtedly powerful, but when it decides to becomes a pawn at the hands of vested interests….well what can i say, it can only spell disaster.Now a days whenever i read or watch something on the new channels i take it with a pinch of salt……
Typical Kerala Media…
one thing I have come to realize is that everything in India comes with a little bit of Adulteration - be it food, Politics, News, entertainment…..be it anything
Hi
The Student organizations, DYFI and other old students (Youth?) organizations and the media, the three factors that work in synergy to stall any development in Kerala.
Be it a non political issue like this, or HMT land deal, these DYFI guys make Kerala hell.
It is not terrorism that is the threat in Kerala, its DYFI, SFI and likes.
The day, they realise joining DYFI does not help any ways, we can expect the state to be better.
Same with SFI, ABVP , KSU as well….
it’s got to do with our political parties’ age old habit to make a raktasaakshi out of any unnatural death which is even remotely connected to one or the other of the targets in their hitlist.
I was among the 1st few batches to have graduated from CEA and the topic in question was something that worried the alumni too just as much, though we were all much away from Kerala then. Sad, nonetheless..
I dont want to reveal the college identity.
Similar incident happened in a college. A boy was killed in accident, it was rumoured that the college bus was nearby the spot and the management did not allow the bus to be given to take him to hospital.
SFI came into the picture and students took this as a chance to complain other things about college. SFI raised unnecessary slogans, media called. But atlast money won. The student had a version college had a version. Its also rumoured that the media was bribed to stop the news too.
Nikhil, I agree completely. And more.
Kerala is the worst state in India to live, just because of SFI and DYFI.
KSU, ABVP etc are not much of a problem since nobody joins them.
Do you remember the days when Tractor was introduced in Kerala? DYFI, SFI were running behind it for months crying that it will make farmers jobless.
The same happened when computerization was introduced. The same happened when express highway was proposed.
I am not a member of any political organization. I hate every one of them. But DYFI and SFI.. they make me hate Kerala.
@Niyaz
Jus adding on, though its off the track from this post.
SFI- Okay, some enthu kids, join them in school. Trust me had I not been in a Kendriya Vidyalaya, I would have joined them.The “rebel”, “anti system” mindset is delved deep in our minds, that makes one join SFI initially. Then they go to college. Then they become nethakkal. Little do they realize that the same IBMs and HPs whom they are against(ideologically) gives them job and wads of cash as salary and NOT someone like a Richard Stallman. These guys are still okay. The intolerable ones are the jobless, unemployable, unproductive guys who end up being a burden not only on the family, but the society and nation as a whole. Then they get old, try to cling onto SFI by registering to some course or the other. Then they move onto DYFI, which is basically all the above said adjectives minus the student tag. They have no clue of what is happening around, jus that they have to shout slogans at the drop of a hat, get paid for that.Do they know what development is? Trust me NO! Development is not about shouting slogans and going against the system, little do they realize.
Hope they do some day.
And the hope remains.
God save god’s own country.
PS: I am NOT aligned to any political organization.
Hi Readers,
What you all have quoted might be true to a great extent, But I dont agree to the case of MACFAST SUICIDE b’cas i am a student of macfast and i know the management and staff more than others.
I’m sure to a great extent that the management and principal and staff might have surely tortured the girl b’cas, i also had such an incident and i was made severly tortured by the teachers.
What the girl wrote on the letter is 100% true that the teachers and principal is thirsty of money and they wont do any compromise on that. I’m sure that the management and specially the teachers are the silent agent in the girls death.
Who lost? The relatives. It is sure that the management would solve the case by thrwing money.
6 months before there was another incident in macfast,The college principal took airtel Wireless connection for the college for rupees50000 and sold it to other party for rupees 60000 and they made international calls through this connection by setting a parrallel excahnge and the bsnl caught this later. This also came in the media except malayala manorama.the case was solved my making the computer sir the main culprit and the college escaped. It is such a shame for me to continue my studies in such a college.
Parents do sent your children to a college only after enquiring the full details of a college….
Do post comments…
Mr Xavier,
I dont like anyone cheating my readers. This so called Mr Xavier is posting this comment from a city located around 800Km from the college. Are you attending your classes via video conferecing ??
Should I post more of your details here, Mr Xavier ?
I am not posting, cos I respect your privacy. So Fuck off and never again come back to this blog.
Credits for this info goes to my friend, who is a cyber forensics expert.
Hai Boss
I am Writing this sitting 1800 kms away from the collage u said so,
It doesnt means that “Xaver”/I Never attended the collage said so…
Do comment logically
Manichen
Xavier said he “is” a student. And BTW, the telephone story is not the way Xavier explained.
I agree with you for the most part. While all political parties are corrupt, the only thing SFI and communists are interested in is developing their own parties and retain conditions necessary to justify their ideologies .
They lack free thought, prevent free thought, prevent free speech, provoke emotions and use them to prevent any intelligent thinking from their members or the people. Their actions and opinions are purely based on which side of a conflict is communist/anti-communist, not any rational thinking/judgement.
For example, I would not be allowed to write this in a communist regime.
Also, Imagine how they would react if some employee suicides from the building of Kairali TV. Remember the saying ‘Kaakkakkum than kunju, ponn kunju’.
“A student of MACFAST college committed suicide. The suicide note said, her college management asked her to buy a new laptop, cos her old laptop got stolen. Is that reason enough to end ones life ? I dont know maybe it is.”
Nobody bother about how she lost her laptop??stolen?? where?at hostel? outside? or classroom??
@Anoop
Her laptop was stolen from a common room for charging laptops. Many laptops were there, but only her laptop was stolen. The college authorities conducted a search, but it was not found. The police also were helpless.
Hmmm May be that laptop holds the real reason of her suicide.
“According to college principal, Abraham Mulamoottil, a group of youths wielding canes and iron bars gate-crashed into the college campus March 25 afternoon, smashed the glass-panes and damaged furniture and other articles in the college office and the cabins of the manager and the principal.”
Everywr i read these same points….what if these medias (madhyama syndicate) ask her parents.
23 varsham ponnu pole kondu nadanna makale viswasichu oru sthapanathil cherthu, avalude nalla bhavikku vendi…avarkkundaya nashtam vachu nokkumbo, Mr.Abraham Mulamoottil nu undaya nashtam verum “smashed glass-panes and damaged furniture and other articles in the college office and the cabins of the manager and the principal “…….enthaaa kadha
15 lakhs of property destroyed wont bring back the dead girl. Then why destroy it in the first place ??
we shuld have a look at sme news day before the attack on the college..
The Self financing medical colleges fixed their fees for next academic yr…the govt is unable 2 do nything on tht….wen they were on the opposition they conducted huge protests nd destroyed public properties sayin that the fees is too high.
nd wen they r in power the fees is again increased…
The MAcfast college is run by the same mangement as that of pushpagiri medical college and the left ppl were seekin an oppurtunity to attack them….
thats waht happened…..THEY ONLY KNOWS TO DESTROY PUBLIC PROPERTY…..nd conduct protest march even wen they r in power..
The same emotion of the girl who lost her laptop and committed suicide can be seen in the following expression.
“23 varsham ponnu pole kondu nadanna makale viswasichu oru sthapanathil cherthu, avalude nalla bhavikku vendi…avarkkundaya nashtam vachu nokkumbo, Mr.Abraham Mulamoottil nu undaya nashtam verum “smashed glass-panes and damaged furniture and other articles in the college office and the cabins of the manager and the principal”
The Media once again proved the suiciding nature of all kerala new readers who has very clinical distress disorders (The suiciding rate increases corresponding to the number of emotional, sensitive news readers). They make very great steps. They face the mirror and break them with their fists.
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Anoop let me ask you a question
“What if you see in tommorows newspaper that the principal of that college commited suicide for the harassment by a group of youths wielding canes and iron bars “.
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Anoop on 03.28.08 at 12:38 pm
“Nobody bother about how she lost her laptop??stolen?? where?at hostel? outside? or classroom??”
Anoop on 03.28.08 at 1:30 pm
“Mulamoottil nu undaya nashtam verum smashed glass-panes and damaged furniture ”
Both the above statement are contradictory since you worry about the nashtam of loosing a laptop and justfies the damages by using verum nashtam .
Both are physical damages which tallies together. But comparison of loosing ones life and causing physical damage is very unlogical.
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“23 varsham ponnu pole kondu nadanna makale viswasichu oru sthapanathil cherthu, ”
Your point being….?
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I think this is very psycological disorder affected to majority of the news readers and mega serial viewers, which causes them dilema, clinical distress.
And media know how critical the readers psycology affects their market and popularity.
You know what
You are being eploited
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Tail End:
Some of the Malayalam Newspaper headings
“Oduvil yathrayay” - Malayala Manorama.
:- A very poetic picturisation of Oduvil Unnikrishnanas Demise.
“Maranathey Tholpichu”- Malayala Manorama
:- When Saddam was executed
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I am a student of MACFAST College. What ever be the reason for Sumi’s death we can’t allow this type of distractive actions from any student organization. Some people came with poles and stones, started destructing everything from the entrance itself. They have done all this without any provocation. They didn’t know even the student’s name who committed suicide . They refer her by “njangalude Remya”.Can this happen in any developed countries. They destructed student’s money, effort of a lot of people, with in minutes. We the students are able to stop those 10-15 political goondas. But violence is not our culture. Our principal stopped us. You know the college is providing quality education. The infrastructure and facilities are of high class. We are working here 24 hrs. Then how can a student, tomorrow’s professional, can suicide for this type of silly issue. Then the media. Do they report any good this happen in the nook and corners? They want only scoop. If they are loyal they should try to find the reason behind her death
Hey Guy’s
This discussion is getting dirty. People throwing things at each other. Please let us stick to the objective of discussing the problem and coming up with solutions.
Though being a mallu, I have been in Kerala for a few years of my schooling life, and have little knowledge about kerala politics. But from what I can understand from the above discussion and lots of other articles I have read is that the Political Parties in Kerala take un-due advantage by involving Students into politics for their personal gains.
Politics is like Poison - you mix it with anything (Studies, Religion, Business, work…) you will end up contaminating whatever you mixed it with.
So the first solution would be to Isolate politics from all these other streams of life. I am sure half of our problems will be solved.
One another part of the problem I see is the social culture in kerala - where there is so much pressure on the kids - from Parents, Relatives, Neighbors, Friends, Teacher…There is no way every kid will become a doctor or an engineer. Parents have to understand this first and stop putting too much pressure on the kids. That itself makes a big difference to the development of the Kid.
Once these two things are set right - kreala will be a paradise for education.
And finally on the media - It is not only the media in kerala, but throughout the world - the media is responsible for adding too much “masala” to news. I think it is high time that all of us realized this and did something about it - like boycotting the media. Ultimately the media bosses are adding “masala” to increase their viewership, when they see that adding masala does not help, maybe they will realize and start reporting true NEWS…
Anyway all knows about Management guys !!! I don’t want to go into that part . The robbery incidents in still going on at Macfast ( in hostel ) and also outside campus too . What the hell r doing the management and the pricipal and hostel incharge sisters ???? This is not first incident of robbery happening there . Laptop , Mobile phones ……were also robbed early tooo . I don’t see any actions from college side ….. Also i don’t believe the robbery is done by students , Its one who know college very well and know college authorities well . If this thief was put behind bars these won’t happen .
Anyway gal did a stupid act . Anyway its only a Laptop , cost around 30000 - 35000 Rs !!! She have no value for her life ?????????
Management have to react now anyway to findout thief.
Why outside college workers r allowed to enter Gals hostel ?????
“A student of MACFAST college committed suicide. The suicide note said, her college management asked her to buy a new laptop, cos her old laptop got stolen. Is that reason enough to end ones life ? I dont know maybe it is.”
ending one life for a matter like this, what have become of us?? have we become kinda suicide maniacs??
i am not insulting any dead soul, i am just stating a general case.
think about the fact, how can one take his/her own life
like that?? think about the parents who have brought one up for years and one plain morning they see the lifeless body of their dearest son/daughter. what will be their mental condition like?
it’s all rather complicated, taking one’s life on matters as simple as this?? this is escapism. escaping from one’s responsibilities and commitments.
why have we become like this?? Every day you can see a dozen or more suicides in the morning papers.
And when it is of a student, our active and responsible student organizations take matters in to their hands. Beating up people, burning cars, thrashing everything in their sight - it’s almost like their birth right.
And that too by more than a dozen organizations.
These things happen only in kerala.
Media is always there to encourage these so called student leaders(”eritheeyil ennayozhikkuka”).
These days our politics is down to “poly+ticks”
“poly - more than one”
“ticks - blood-sucking parasites”
I am Ex-student of MAAFAST. I have studied their for nearly 3 years, and know the management quite well.. In my opinion, the management is not as wat the medias reported, The Principal is a very hardworking man whose doing his best to provide the best, the high quality education for the students studying in the college.
Its very ridiculous to hear that o girl cud end up her life, just b’coz a laptop was stolen. its not logical. Ok, for somebody harassing her, to wat extent cud they harass. Must have asked several questions to confirm, whether the laptop was actually stolen, it cud also be that, a person cud hide ones laptop and say its lost, to get a new.. So verifivations shud be done properly.
The student organizations, Medias shuould actually work their brains, to find the actual cause of suicide, not try to escape from the responsibilities, by destroying a wonderful college
I don’t know in what sense it is ‘wonderful college’.Because I spend around 3 years in MACFAST.During my time the management and admin was not that much good also.If the situation is same I think the management and principal have responsibility for the incident.For them it is a business.
Now, Jeena and thomas differs in their opinion about the college. May be thomas should study in one of the govt or semi govt colleges in Kerala. Then he will realise the true value he got from MACFAST
Ok I spend around 5 years in gov colleges.I think admin should study in macfast for some time..
I do want to study there. And before writing this, i did enough of research talking to student there.
Then you study there for three years and write this.
So… what do you have to say about Jeenas comment. She also studied there.
And business is not what MACFAST does, business is what colleges in Tamil Nadu and Karnataka does.
I know her and I told my experience with macfast.
And I don’t know why admin is biased to macfast.
I had visited MACFAST and im jealous of all you guys who studied/studying there.
I am not biased, but I dont approve to blaming the college authorities for the suicide of that girl.
I am not simply blaming the college management.But they are not 100% correct in this incident.I know what will be the reaction from the principal if u go and tell him that u lost u r laptop.
Then tell me, what his reaction will be, according to you.
I think it is better I will stop here.Otherwise it will go long.And I do’t have time also.
Your wish…
Hi Thomas,
Just spending (as you spend time in a market or theater) 3 or 30 years is not enough for experiencing the true value of an educational institution. I’m also an ex-student of MACFAST. Seriously, I’m not a supporter of Kerala model self financing culture. But MACFAST is different. I’ve many plus points to shoot out. But Thomas was a MACFAST student, so no need to tell him those things.
Also, Kenny, your replies to the posts are much biased. Sometimes you are trying to suppress talks against MACFAST. Everybody should speak out.
Thanks
Habeeb
MACFAST is different, thats exactly what I am also trying to say.
I never suppressed any discussion. If i were to suppress, then those negative comments would not be here.
[…] The motivation to write this post is a comment by a reader in one of my previous posts about the suicide of a college student in MACFAT, a self financed college. […]
I have few words to endorse & few words to mock at – Le’me start standing by Habeeb for his lines there and Thomas, his opinion is something that syncs with mine while at MACFAST as compared to Jeena and many others.
Abraham Sir or MACFAST authorities might have their stories to tell because they have to escape glitches. But something on the stone cannot be wiped off. Who would be responsible for the disaster occurred in your territory? For a moment, I broke in to laugher after reading Jenna’s closing. You see, she has written “Medias should actually work their brains, to find the actual cause of suicide, not try to escape from the responsibilities, by destroying a wonderful college”. Words like BRAINS, RESPONSIBILITIES and WONDERFUL sounds interesting, but not at the cost of a poor family who lost their daughter. Be it construction or destruction, nothing happens without a purpose or a cause and laptop having stolen could be an excuse. It smells like a rotten egg, when you read the whole episode and the supporters are supporters of reality or that they only had a glorious time at MACFAST?
@Renjith
Im not sure what you are trying to say. Are you suggesting that the college authorities are responsible ?
A few days back there was a talk show on Asianet, where the Principal and the so called “Student leaders” participated. There was not a single credible point of argument against the college.
They said, the college is running courses without recognition, and the father invited challenged all of them to find a single course with out recognition.
Another argument was that a written complaint was not given to the police. Law experts showed some ruling that says a phone call is enough. Its the police who said, it wont be appropriate for them to come to a girls hostel and conduct an enquiry.
And the biggest point missed by all. What was it that the girl wanted to talk to her dad about, other than the laptop. Could it be the real reason ? Why is no investigation done to find that out ?
Hi Renjith,
“Abraham Sir or MACFAST authorities might have their stories to tell because they have to escape glitches. But something on the stone cannot be wiped off. Who would be responsible for the disaster occurred in your territory?”
Yes, this is the question that everybody asking. “Who’s responsible? What’s the cause?”.
MACFAST authorities are trying to find out the truth (no one else), because they have to wipe out (not escape) glitches. They are asking govt. to inquire the case and to find out the truth. Others are using their prejudice mind for finding the reason.
“Be it construction or destruction, nothing happens without a purpose or a cause and laptop having stolen could be an excuse.”
I don’t know, could you explain? What are you trying to say? Is laptop issue only an excuse? If yes, why should we blame MACFAST?
Also all commentators (whether you are a supporter of MACFAST or not), why don’t you post your real names? If you are telling the truth, please specify your real name. Sending anonymous letters is not at all good (in my opinion)
Habeeb
I can assure you all one thing. The truth will never be found cos the truth will make all the media reports and all destruction look stupid.
After all who is interested in the TRUTH
Hi Kenney,
“I can assure you all one thing. The truth will never be found cos the truth will make all the media reports and all destruction look stupid.”
How do you know Kenney? Do you have any evidence?
Thanks
Habeeb
The truth behind rajanis suicide was never found.
What’s the truth???
How do I know that ?
But i can give you some facts.
The girl never mentioned anything against the college in her suicide letter. Stil our college was targeted.
She was a reservation student and was never required to pay fees. Moreover she was recieving grants from the govt.
She didnt colllect her grant from the govt, and it was still at our college when she commited suicide.
Her death happend almost 6 months after she left the college.
“I was final year then, and I know what exactly had happened. But the irresponsible media reports blamed the college and the authorities. We as students were not allowed to speak the truth. We tried to do a press conference and we got threats over the phone, as it would be against the already spread propaganda.”
“…….. We as students were not allowed to speak the truth…… ”
What’s that TRUTH? anything other than ’some facts’ you posted above? Or more truths…???
These facts as well as some info regarding her academic performance.
Everybody here is taliking about the grief of her Parents, Why she did not think about her parents sorrow when she committed suicide, she was not concerned about it??? But everyone else is, only she was not…For a mere reason of a laptop being stolen, and the college authorities not taking any action against it, she forgot everything, even her parents and committed suicid, it is ridiculous… I dont understand, hoe educated people cud even accept this fact, that for a laptop being stolen, somene cud end up their life. Actually by putting the blame on the college…the actual truth is being hidden…..
I would like to echo Jeena’s comment. Not accussing her, but students need to be more logical and practical. Education is not just for getting jobs, it should enable people to think wisely.
And about the media and student organisations, the less said the better. If the mallu media focuses on politics alone, the national level media focuses on celebrities and is always on a ’star-chase’.
…. but in self financed culture, education is only for getting some jobs…
It not the self financing culture, Its the indian culture where education is seen as a means for jobs. Dont blame self financing colleges for it.
no self financing colleges doesn’t allow student organizations, even mass petitions, etc.. most of the managements treat students as one way machines..
some of the managements doesn’t allows even PTAs
some of them misusing internal marks system against students…
these are all facts….
don’t forget the famous management dialog “kaashullavan maathram padichaal mathiyadeey….”
Student organisations with a political nature are something to be kept away form campuses. Colleges are places for studying and not for leanring politics.
And you are generalising your allegations. SJCET dismissed a few students after recieveing complaints about ragging. Toc-H Suspended a few students after having found drunk. …. and I can site many more examples.
And there are govt colleges where complaints are ignored, where PTA is non fucntional and there is no rule of law.
Internal marks are something every student complaints about irrespective of the managment.
And you are trying to mix emotion by qouting that dialogue. But let me ask you a simple question.
Suppose that in Kerala 50000 students want to study engineeering and there are only 10000 govt seats. Whats your solution to teach the rest 40000 students ?
“Student organizations with a political nature are something to be kept away form campuses. Colleges are places for studying and not for learning politics.”
— I’m totally against this. Student should learn politics. Politics means the real politics (not violence).
“And you are generalising your allegations. SJCET dismissed a few students after recieveing complaints about ragging. Toc-H Suspended a few students after having found drunk. …. and I can site many more examples.”
— Mass complaints and actions are not like this. Can you make a complaint against a system in the college? Against management?
“Toc-H Suspended a few students after having found drunk. …. and I can site many more examples.”
— There are many educational institutions who ‘treat’ govt inspectors for getting approvals and other favors (please don’t ask me examples, but few months before SFI raised such an issue).
And there are govt colleges where complaints are ignored, where PTA is non fucntional and there is no rule of law.
— Yes you are correct. But not because of the problem of govt, but because of the problem of PTA. Most of the educated people are sending their kids to self financed schools, so the reason is very obvious.
And you are trying to mix emotion by qouting that dialogue. But let me ask you a simple question.
– We should consider all emotions (Both managements and students).
Suppose that in Kerala 50000 students want to study engineeering and there are only 10000 govt seats. Whats your solution to teach the rest 40000 students ?
– Already told.. I’m not against self financed collages. But against most of the self financed college’s culture.
Ya teach politics in schools or teach politics like we teach engineering, all theory and no practicals. A gradute college is a place where go to study a particualr course. I dont want some stupid, good for nothing student leader ruining my class atmosphere, I dont want him threatening me cos he has a party behindhim, I dont want him inviting outsiders to the college to conduct strikes, and there are a thousand other things that are typical student organisations do that people like me dont want in colleges.
And engineering college should be striclty a place to teach engineering. If someone wants to learn politics go and join some youth wing of a party. Dont bring it to the campus.
All your other allegations are random. Some may be true with some colleges. Not all self financing colleges and not all govt colleges are functioning properly.
The so called “culture” is something that should evolve. A free market should be there, where colleges can be started and colleges can be closed. The good ones will survive and bad ones will not get any students.
Brother I was telling you about politics not about violence, I was telling you about political leaders not about goons.
You are saying that ‘Politics = Violence’ and ‘Violence = Politics’. Who taught this equation.
Crashes between students, or between two gangs is very common. Cause might be different. But whenever an issue happened in an educational institution, the irresponsible media and so called dumb industrialists and careerists blame politics.
Yes.. there are some unethical political leader (we can’t call them political leaders, they are criminals) who supports violence. That doesn’t mean, politics is poison.
Man, if you guys not practicing real politics, criminals will convert the politics to poison. And we can’t blame them too, because they are trying to implement their culture. But people like not raising your voice.
“All your other allegations are random. Some may be true with some colleges. Not all self financing colleges and not all govt colleges are functioning properly.”
This is what I’m saying. Allegations are random. Some may be true with some.
“The so called “culture” is something that should evolve. A free market should be there, where colleges can be started and colleges can be closed. The good ones will survive and bad ones will not get any students.”
– who decides good and bad? If the management association is deciding, they will say student organizations are bad. If SFI is deciding, they will say management is bad. Bad one also get students (in some cases more students than good one)
This blog is about MACFAST issue. In MACFAST, we can enjoy 24 hours, 24 hours internet, 24 hours library, etc… But can you point out few other colleges (say 10 colleges) giving such facilities to the students without additional fee?
Looks like we will never agree on the politics thing. You are suggesting something that would work only in utopia, where students elect their responsible leaders, who will be free from any political intervention.
I am of the opinion that students must keep their political life and student life separate. No politics in campus. You come there, you study and you get a degree. If you want to protest, there are mechanisms for that. SFI and KSU are not the organisations to take up student issues.
You are seeing Clashes between students very lightly. It happens cos of lack of fear. Dismiss without mercy and no more problems will be there. The perfect example is SJCET. 3 students were dismissed cos of ragging complaints and the college is clean now. 3 dismissals set the culture.
Let the students and their parents decide good and bad. Its like a super market with lots of products. The consumers will decide whats good and whats bad based on their experience or someone elses experience and sometimes based on the brand. Education also should be like that.
Nothing in this world is free. If the IITs and IIMs are enjoying world class facilities, its all paid by you, me and the poorest of the people in this country. If you want AC in your car, you need to pay an additional fee. Its the same with colleges also.
Kenney,,, I’m optimistic
Hey girl, your words now carry a million dollar value and it’s absolutely rubbish if this girl blew up herself for a reason like this, but are we sure if this was the reason? Now Habeeb, please don’t ask me if I know the reason, it was just a question shot!
Come on Habeeb, I am against targeting media for such reason because at least they take the pains in messaging everyone about some incidents like this. They do it based on the first information available to them ASA they rush to the site. So what? As and when they are updated, they are written again. And in this case they have not written anything further is because they did not find a turn.
And girl, her parent’s grievances are always valued and I can bet that nothing can compensate it. To look at this truly, someone needs to feel the lose of relationships. But Jeena, even if the laptop was lost and the college authorities questioned the girl with an intention of fact finding, I feel the girl wouldn’t have acted in haste considering ‘laptop stolen’ was a cause
rumors r out that the gals laptop was found in a well nearby the gals hostel
this is t dead gals profile on orkut
http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=13572401056466450240
please read t scarp on Mar 23rd (she suicided on tat night ) ..plz do go through her communities also..
Saw the scraps and the communities, but couldnt make out anything. Any special information there ?
did u c t profile picture..that is of a dead gal..so sme one asked to change t pix (23rd scrap)..on that she suicided..it has no relation …i was just saying wat a co-incidence!!!
regarding t communities ..some communities r related to love and love failures ,loneliness….
gal seems be a communist also
on that day * (above) she suicided
Ha ha ha x-macfast_guy, you are a sherlock holmes dear friend….
will try wriiting a booK
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