Academic Project - A Means to Exploit Students ?????

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A week back I was talking to a friend of mine in a college in central Travancore and he was complaining that his HOD is not allowing him to choose a project topic that he likes. The fellow wants to develop a GTK application. The HOD not only has got not any clue about GTK, but he insists that all the students join a particular institution in Cochin.

Having heard this I called up a few friends of mine in various colleges across Kerala. I was surprised to hear similar stories, especially from self financing colleges. I had a respect for self financing colleges cos of the opportunity they give to the students of Kerala. But if their management allows these kinds of HODs or staffs to exploit the students it will affect the colleges reputation.

I wont write any names here. But I want the students to comment their experience. If you had a bad experience with your project or seminar, or if you are being exploited in the name of it, write it down as a comment. Let the world know.

PS: I dont mind, you writing the name of the culprits in the comment box.

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#1 Binny V A on 02.04.08 at 9:52 am

My brother has this problem - the teachers are blindly rejecting the project applications. But they have not suggested the students to go to any particular institution.

But the reasons provided for the rejection are insane - one of the project was reject “because its an online app”!

#2 TheAnand on 02.04.08 at 3:26 pm

Funny that this shud come up at a time when its in time for my own project. I am going to ignou to gather more information on the same…god knows what will happen…will keep this space updated though ;)

#3 Niyaz PK on 02.04.08 at 9:49 pm

It is indeed a pathetic situation.

Kenny,
You told about the HOD and institutions. But there is another, more serious problem - 99% of the projects done in Kerala are either:
(1) Done by some private institution and used by many students over several years.
Or
(2) Downloaded from the internet.

And the projects are of very low quality. I am ashamed to say that I studied in Kerala with a bunch of Fools for my engineering. Yes. Except very few colleagues, all the others had no interest in engineering. And most of them came to study CS because they could not get through the medical entrance.

And here is the lighter side:
Some of us did projects in C, C++, VB, VC++…… (Platform dependent?)
On the day of presentation, we copied the files to a USB stick and demonstrated our works.
Another group of students from my class did their projects in Java. (Platform Independent, Portable, Architecture Neutral…..)
All of them carried computers from an Institution in Cochin to our college in Kottayam. Their projects run only in the specific computers in which they did their projects. Hmmm Java is indeed portable.

#4 Niyaz PK on 02.04.08 at 9:53 pm

Don’t sweat over the “bunch of Fools” phrase guys.
I love and admire my classmates. They are my very good friends. They are my life. But they are fools too.

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#6 vu2swx on 02.04.08 at 10:45 pm

I agree with Kenny. Being an engineering faculty member myself, I have noticed several covert attempts in wooing students to private institutes. I have made a related comment on my blog on this. http://gnubox.dyndns.org/wordpress/?p=28

#7 Idontwantogetmyselfkilled on 02.05.08 at 6:41 am

I am a student from Mangalam engineering college and I believe you are mentioning our college. Our CS HOD is forcing us to do project in Focuz technologies. Only one batch got exception because those idiots enjoy a good relationship with out HOD. Can some one tell me how much commission our HOD is getting

#8 Mr. Idot of "idntwanttogetmyselfkilled" on 02.06.08 at 8:41 am

hello “Idontwantogetmyselfkilled”, u said ur hod forced to do project in focuz, thats bad, did u respond? did u fight against it? if not sad of you :)
you lost your money right, you went to focus right? thats too sad and ashamed too…
maybe i am that idot you mentioned, and u said i hav been exempted coz i hav good relation, do u know that all students hav to do their project in the college? thats so…
i thought why shld i waste ma money, and i also thought if i utilise that money in some business il benefit from that too, not by hearing someones news or not by analysing my hod, its my degree its my project.
i didnt went up askin him abt some institution, i went and said, hey i dnt know java a bit, but i have the confidence, cld i do it with out any institution at ma college… simple, thats wat all faculty likes to hear too…

so dnt become urselfs a idot blaming on someothers, if u are not gonna fight in ur life… its simple answer that ur lifes a failure…
and i feel am confident abt wat am sayin, n i belive in myself, so i dnt mind to tell my name, ma names Linoy Joseph
“Dont Blame Others For Wat You Are Doing, if some others are utilising u, its your weakness, dnt blame them”
Linoy Joseph

#9 Niyaz PK on 02.06.08 at 2:05 pm

Linoy,
I couldn’t agree more.

I too have this problwm with the authorities. I will not do anything for them.

And Mr.Idontwantogetmyselfkilled, yes you should that(get yourself killed) if you cannot fight for what you believe in.

#10 Maneesh J on 02.06.08 at 3:33 pm

When I was doing my final year project ,I applied to do project in an excellent company (an american software company).They were paying stipend and giving licences of software to do the project free of cost for this program.They asked me to get a recommendation mail for our team from our HOD.

When i conveyed our HOD (Electronics) about this,he was very reluctant to send the mail.He was saying that this project was not at good for electronics students since embedded vc++ programming was involved. Later he said that he may send it .Later we got a mail from the company that our team cannot proceed bcos the department didn’t send the email.We managed to send a recommendation letter from principal by courier but then the last date was over.This is my personal experience regarding authorities and academic projects.

#11 Niyaz PK on 02.06.08 at 4:44 pm

Maneesh,
I am so sorry.
Atleast send him this link. Let him know he is hated.

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#13 K.Ashok Shenoy on 02.15.08 at 4:25 pm

Hi,
In the first place which one of you is even intrested in
programming? I have been offering training in the very
core of computing languages i.e. C/C++ - with indepth
training in pointers, structures, unions, templates, stl
and now boost along with open source libs for GUI,
database etc. In spite of having 15 years experience
in programming, being a pioneer in win/lin/java/c# programming I find most students intrested only in
learning superficial stuff which will get them a’jolly’ in
the shortest time possible. India a software super power
indeed!

#14 Niyaz PK on 02.16.08 at 2:50 pm

Ashok,
True

#15 Ganesh on 03.05.08 at 6:04 pm

sir i am Ganesh from bangalore
i am a final year bca student in anational college bangalore
sir i want billing system project developed in dotnet please help me out sir its urgent to me

#16 Issac on 03.13.08 at 1:12 am

At least I studied in a government college, I believe Kenny did that too.

Whatever you say about the teaching standards of the govt colleges, I enjoyed a freedom of thought and expression. And it also enabled me to get what I want on my own.

And I believe it helped Kenney a lot to be free of the bandwagon mentality.

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